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Tuesday, September 18, 2012

1998 "I actually believe in redistribution..."


20 comments:

Romney: I actually believe in corporate greed said...

Mitts plan for 2014:

1)Unemployment -- no real plan, just give the "job creators" more money and watch the magic happen. Never mind the fact that his plan actually involves taking money from the majority of the consumer base ( see tax plan below). My favorite quote (from a business owner --"give me a tax break and I'll take my wife on vacation, give me some customers and I'll hire people"

2) Food Stamps -- no plan to get people off just a plan to cut spending on the plan so those in need will go without

3)Deficit -- plan is to make it bigger through his tax plan as every respectable tax research group has shown

4) Percentage of public in poverty -- hell, no plan there, thats actually a perk of Republican economics -- so Job well done there

5) Downgrade of credit -- since the downgrade is due not to actual deficit and a lack of government to actually work together, that blame actually falls on Congress and their unwillingness to actually address the issue in a rational manner

5) highest percentage on Disability -- ?, WTF does this have to do with Obama?

6) High oil and food prices -- welcome to the 21st century and a global population of over 6 Billion, nothing here from Romney though except drill, baby, drill. Which by the way is just stupid from an economic or security point of view since oil is a finite research, keeping domestic reserves will provide even greater rewards as supplies dwindle even further in the future.

7) Economic freedom -- again no plan here actually the desired result of Republican economics, the only plan would be to further discourage economic mobility through further destruction of unions and the middle class.

8) Taxes -- Base broaden to increase the tax base so that we can not force Mitt and his friends to pay that whopping 14.1% -- effect is to take money out of the pockets of that part of the consumer base that otherwise would actually actively circulate that money through the economy and give it to those who already have enough disposable income and hence that money is effectively removed from the economy on the short term.

Auntie Em said...

Wassa matter, hurt your feelings?

Auntie Em said...

According to Romney's plan that you misquote:

'Reduce taxes on job creation through individual and corporate tax reform"

Did you note the world "individual"? Do you have a problem with individuals getting a break too?

I don't know who you consider "respectable tax research group" but how about Nobel economists? http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2012/08/16/nobel-economists-back-mitt-romneys-plan

Put people to work, they will get off food stamps. THAT is the plan.

Put people to work, you have a stronger tax base paying down the deficit as long as Washington does not increase spending, THAT is the plan.

Again, put people to work, fewer people in poverty.

Maybe you should go look at S&P before quoting reasons for the down grade. Actually you are half right and half wrong:

"Why did this happen now? S&P gave two primary reasons for downgrading U.S. debt: The nation's fiscal path and its broken political system.

The agency has been harping on those two issues for months. S&P argues that the U.S. debt-to-GDP trajectory is unsustainable, and that the politics involved are so caustic that lawmakers are unable to make the tough choices needed to correct the problem."

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/06/news/economy/sp_rating_faq/index.htm

Your number 6 point is just stupid on so many levels. Oil may be finite, but we are no where near the bottom of the barrel so to speak. And we need it to keep the economic wheels turning while we continue to develop alternate energy sources. How you managed to ASSume that all research would stop is beyond me.

Capitalism has created more economic freedom than your Presidents centrally controlled plan would ever dream of.

So, it looks like you are a typical Obamabot. Go do more research and come back.

Auntie Em said...

Although I would have preferred Ron Paul's plan BUT Americans are not educated enough yet to recognize the danger to our freedoms.

of the reservation said...

TO: Romney: I actually believe in corporate greed said...


Want to start a business today under Obama? Currently, there are over 180 general areas of compliance and law governing small businesses. Shortly after Obama took over, I shut down my business, I saw the compliance crap getting generated. Because of my business, I was one of your filthy rich people. I walked off a reservation over 30 years ago with nothing to my name, I worked hard to build something that was employing people. But, after many hard years working days and nights, Obama was the last straw.

Your answer? STEAL from ME using the GUN of your USeless F(ucking)ederal Govt and just give it all away. It does not matter to you. It is all funny money to you anyway. So, help society by creating more poor and giving away the property of others to accomplish that. You steal the property of others to appease a growing group of leaches thinking it will keep them from busting down your door, butchering your family, and burning down your home. And when other people's money runs out, you think the government will just print more.

What will happen when hard working people look at their paycheck, realize they cannot afford to get medical assistance because your "poor" people are getting subsidies left and right. Oh, OBAMACARE you yell from the rooftops! And you scoff at people who talk about the death panels called out in that law and the demographic preferences created in that law giving racial groups more medical resources than others.

My tribe had a legally binding treaty with the United States Govt, as called for under the United States Constitution. In recognition of the millions of acres my tribe gave up to the USeless Govt, we were to receive, in perpetuity, education, medical, law enforcement protection, and an area where we could live in peace.

The USeless Govt within a year closed and shuttered all medical clinics and facilities. The nearest hospital over 50 miles away for a group with little for transportation. The education promised was never implemented. No law enforcement. The state we lived in was given unfettered access to violate the boundaries of our reservation.

Maybe you are black and you see sunny skies ahead of you? Everyone else in this country will be forced, on bended knee to make up for your injustices? Really? Time and again the blacks have been sold a "bill of goods," left in abject poverty to kill each other with complete reckless abandon. Your women are impregnated shortly after they come to be child bearing and the Planned Parenthood facilities are right there to conduct abortion after abortion of your people as if that were an acceptable form of birth control.

You are such a stupid fool. And if you are black, I can see you repeating a cycle that has gone on since Lincoln created that little black town in the District of Columbia shortly after emancipation. You are not free because you do not have the ability to feed yourself. I am not free because the USeless F(ucking)ederal Govt sees me as its slave to steal from to keep your worthless ass in check.

There is no middle ground here, except where you and I meet to see who finishes off the other. When a group is enslaved to feed another group of freeloaders the only answer left is open, bloody, rebellion. History is filled with many examples. You failed to learn, but your lesson may soon come.

of the reservation said...

TO: Romney: I actually believe in corporate greed said...

The people of this country gave Obama everything he needed to succeed and BARACK OBAMA FAILED!

It has bee over 800 days since the Democrat-controlled Senate passed a budget.

The people of this country gave Barack Obama two full years of Democrat control over the House and the Senate and BARACK OBAMA FAILED!

Continuing resolution after continuing resolution has kept the country's future in complete uncertainty. And yet all you liberals complain that you are powerless with the Republicans in the House to do anything. Well you had two full years of complete control and did NOTHING, except pass that monstrosity OBAMACARE and even that was almost a complete failure for your people to pass.

I know, it was Bush's fault that you could not accomplish anything.

Mother Jones Knows Best! said...

180 general areas of compliance? We have clean water and clean air today because of necessary federal regulations. Though much is needed to catch up with a real living wage, people like you have seen tremendous strides in your greed. The inequality today is staggering. Just look at how your control over the wealth of this country increases while the rest of us are starved to prop you up.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph

A checklist of 180 items? Is that it? No wonder you couldn't run a business. I read your profile "of the reservation". You're probably living high off of a government subsidy called military retirement. What do you do with all of that money? Buying guns and ammo when people need food? Who is the greedy one? I am a working mom raising children and keeping a roof over their heads while you steal more and more wealth from the real people of this country.

Auntie Em said...

Wow there is arrogance for you. A mother? How do we know, you are too cowardly to sign in with a real id.

"Real people of this country"??? Who do you think you are? You do not get to decide that "lady".

Clean air and water eh? And now, in the southwest they can't even get access to their own water because of over regulation and are having to kill many of their herds. Typical regulation that always goes too far.

Enjoy this post while you can, there will be no more posting without an id.

shuttindown said...

Mother Jones Knows Best! said...
"The inequality today is staggering. Just look at how your control over the wealth of this country increases while the rest of us are starved to prop you up"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Interesting how this person self-identifies with failure. This is purely observation on my part as I would never stoop to engage directly with her.
And........she has spawned! Oh joy!!!

of the reservation said...

TO: Mother Jones the fool

You're a rich girl,
and you've gone too far
'Cause you know it
don't matter anyway
You can rely
on the old man's money
You can rely
on the old man honey
It's a bitch girl
but it's gone too far
'Cause you know
it don't matter anyway
Say money money
won't get you too far,
Get you too far
And don't you know,
don't you know
That it's wrong to take
what he's giving you
So far gone, on your own
You can get along
if you try to be strong
But you'll never be strong
'Cause
You're a rich girl,
and you've gone too far
'Cause you know
it don't matter anyway
You can rely
on the old man's money
You can rely
on the old man honey
It's a bitch girl
and it's gone too far
'Cause you know
it don't matter anyway
Say money money
won't get you too far,
Get you too far
High and dry,
and out of the rain
It's so easy to hurt others
when you can't feel pain
And don't you know
that a love can't grow
'Cause there's too much to give,
'cause you'd rather live
For the thrill of it all, oh
You're a rich girl,
and you've gone too far
'Cause you know
it don't matter anyway
You can rely
on the old man's money
You can rely
on the old man's money
It's a bitch girl
and it's gone too far
'Cause you know
it don't matter anyway
Say money
but it won't get you too far,
Say money
but it won't get you too far,
Say money
but it won't get you too far,
Get you too far
And you say
You can rely
on the old man's money
You can rely
on the old man's money
You're a rich girl,
a rich girl
Oh, you're a rich, rich girl, yeah
Say money
but it won't get you too far,
Oh, get ya too far

of the reservation said...

TO: Mother Jones the Cheat

You have entered the House of the Hard Naked Truth. I am MAJ Pain (my friends call me OTR) and for the next one-zero-mikes I will be your primary instructor in the administration of the Painful Truth.

So, you are single mother. Guess what, you have given up. Worse yet, you have condemned your children. You are irresponsible. Maybe, just maybe (assuming that maybe you are not a completely total waste of human flesh), you are a widow from a most catastrophic situation involving your husband. Responsible people carry life insurance. If your husband really cared and if you were really a responsible individual then there would have been a good policy to help you get past what happened. You would not require the USeless Federal Govt to hold a gun to my head, to screw over my family, to steal from me, so that you can in some way, be made “whole.”

I know, maybe you and the father of your children were just really young, barely making enough to get by, could not afford insurance. So, being the fine public school educated kids you were, you made some really important life decisions in the back seat of a car. And here you are, destitute with children. And all of this makes it a requirement on me, someone who made responsible decisions, someone who set aside for my family should I die, to give that up, at the end of the government gun, to sacrifice my family’s security for your lousy decisions, your selfish desires, your irresponsibility. You did this to your children, NOT ME! That is correct woman. You are not a victim. YOU ARE A FILTHY LAZY IRRESPONSIBLE BITCH THAT WILL STEAL FROM EVERYONE ELSE TO MAKE UP FOR YOUR LIBERAL BULLSHIT.

So, let us cover that stupid remark you made about military retirement. I am a veteran. I have 100% disability and a medical discharge from the Army. I spent time in recovery. When I was able to work, I stopped taking any further retirement from the Army and checked out of the VA. When I entered into the service long ago, a compensatory agreement existed between the US and me that was all consecrated by law under the requirements of the US Constitution to provide for a standing Army, to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic. Under that law, it was recognized that I would sacrifice myself to serve this country and in return the US Government would compensate me on the level commensurate with that sacrifice. Anyone receiving a military retirement check also carries orders in the event that the US Govt calls any of us back to duty. This is compensation for us to be ready in the event we might be called back, not an entitlement.

You filthy liberals will fight tooth and nail for a school teacher to get their pension and yet you will gladly screw over a soldier who lost a leg, or a double amputee (in the service of this country), because it fits in your selfish, power buying schemes. Personally, I think it is very likely you have children from multiple fathers because you were too strung out on drugs to know what you were doing. On top of that, your children are likely screwed up from your drug/alcohol problems. Someone should tie you to a pole and shoot your filthy liberal ass.

Just like the loser you are, you have to drag down anyone who is successful. Rather than trying to be a success (and there are a lot of very successful single mothers out there that educated themselves, make good salaries, and loath taking a dime from anyone), you gang up with your government mob to destroy successful people. Well once you are done trying, I hope you starve to death from your own greed and jealousy. Unfortunately, the real victims are your children and they will suffer at the hand of another filthy liberal bitch.

And I will answer your crap statement about 180 requirements soon on my blog. You are very stupid and have no clue about those business requirements just like the rest of your liberal Klan.

of the reservation said...

TO: Mother Jones the whacko

Go look and learn something about creating your own business:

http://of-the-reservation.blogspot.com/2012/09/want-to-start-business.html

That is nothing more than a simple overview of the main areas you have to become expert in before you can hire your first person.

All you moronic followers of your "Messiah" have NO CLUE what it takes to make commerce happen. You come to the table with such idiotic claims and nonsense new regulations. Anyone trying to be productive is a complete insult to you, something you feel you must destroy.

Maybe you can get off your back long enough to learn something? You probably have no clue as to the father of your children let alone any capacity to understand what it takes to be productive. I said PRODUCTIVE NOT REPRODUCTIVE! Someone needs to tie your tubes and sew your orifices shut.

GOP, party of greed said...

How level is the playing field when people, presumably like yourself and the rest of us, are giving somewhere in the neighborhood of 25-50% of our earnings over to taxes - taxes which make our Social Contract possible - and people like Mr. Romney, who have wealth to buy influence and lobbyists get sweetheart deals and special tax codes that plummet their personal responsibility to the nation that has made their wealth possible to far less as a percentage of income? Shouldn't that burden be applied equally? Should not those with great means also have great responsibility to make that success possible for others? What's so wrong with expecting if I pay 30% of my income to taxes a person like Romney pay 35% rather than 14%?

Distribution of wealth is way out of balance. Why would you support the Greedy Operatives Party? Obama can return us to a level of sanity.

Auntie Em said...

What Social Contract? Where is it? Give me a link.

According to the Tax Foundation those making over 50k had an effective rate of 14.1 and those under had an effective rate of 3.5%

So using your logic (sic) you want to RAISE taxes on those people!

Spin again. And use a real identity next time.

Auntie Em said...

Note to "anyone can be anyone". Post with a real id and you can tell him yourself.

AMAZING how much negative activity this one post is getting! Must be doing something right.

butt how'boutdat neckid said...

OTR...your 09/25/12 0923...

I'm fuggin' impressed...W O W...

very good comment...

of the reservation said...

TO: The Mother Jones Klan,

You folks never cease to amaze me. You think that I am that stupid. You filthy liberals are knifing us in the back the whole time and then you say it is some other poor guy walking down the street that is doing it. All the while you are taking the money out of my pockets.

So, let us do just a little bit of analysis of your Mother Effing Jones article:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-in-america-chart-graph

Who are these people, really? Over and over you scream "GOP!" Really? The truth hurts:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/seven-of-nations-10-most-affluent-counties-are-in-washington-region/2012/09/19/f580bf30-028b-11e2-8102-ebee9c66e190_story.html

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/09/21/dc_metro_area_is_super_rich_7_of_the_10_ten_counties_are_in_the_dc_suburbs_.html

Thing is, those counties surrounding Washington, DC, are largely single-earner families, meaning the people occupying those counties are really raking in the big bucks. While the recession has been smashing families across the nation, Obama's cronies have been raking in the big bucks, AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS! These people are not generating work. THESE FILTHY RICH LIBERALS ARE TICKS SUCKING OUR COUNTRY DRY. Their only function is to create more government and government regulations.

All the while you Mother Jones's are peddling your filthy liberal lies putting the rest of us at each others throats. In the DC area you continue to feather your focking pillows. Like all liberals, the people of this area consider themselves to be highly affluent. Wow, the typical liberal attitude of elitism.

So, you drain us dry to so that you can keep yourselves safe. That will not last long. When the dollar collapses all of you make it so easy to find you. I think all of you liberals are in need of a good stretch.

of the reservation said...

Thank you Butt,

Been hearing some new crap about single mothers in Houston.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Texas-parents-owe-nearly-11-billion-in-child-3905716.php

In that article, which hit a lot of radio stations, the AG is complaining about 460,000 delinquent accounts total owing about $11 Billion (as in the big "B"). I smell something bad coming. Outside of Austin, Houston is a large bastion of a growing population of Democrat/Liberal/Food Stamp collecting sons-of-britches. The libs are giving us notice. Sugar daddy is going to be called upon to pick up the slack. And that means responsible people are going to sacrifice their families at the liberal alter to pay for other people's children and buy more liberal votes.

So that number of 460,000 delinquents represents 40% of the child-support-paying population in Texas. That averages $24,000 per delinquent. That just seems a bit on the outrageous side, right where liberals live.

Hurricane Katrina gave Houston a large boost in population. Largely, a big boost in food stamp recipients.

This animal we call Texas is getting sucked dry by all these parasites that discovered a new host. We are doomed.

shuttindown said...

GOP, party of greed said...

"Shouldn't that burden be applied equally? Should not those with great means also have great responsibility to make that success possible for others? What's so wrong with expecting if I pay 30% of my income to taxes a person like Romney pay 35% rather than 14%?"

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Read your first sentence again. Now read your last sentence. Again, first sentence. Now last sentence. You see it now? No? Let me help. 35% does not equal 30%. Because I know when you talk about making something equal, you do mean....equal, right? No problem my little Mensa warrior - you can call me Kemo....Stand and Deliver??.....Jaime Escalante? (A negative times a negative equals a positive) (fill the hole....).......................never mind.
Now don't come back at me with what is purported that Romney pays or doesn't pay. That's a different discussion and you haven't bought a ticket for it. This discussion is about you and the use of your new vocabulary word - "equally".
You may now approach me with why 35% == 30%. Rock the mathematics world and proceed.

of the reservation said...

shuttindown,

These people are everything we have come to expect from years of government indoctination. And she has spawned, looking for more hosts to suck on.

It really is not about making a valid argument. It is about subterfuge while the liberals further their agenda to drive the country into bankruptcy in hopes of the government seizing all property for them. We have two wolves and a sheep deciding on dinner. Time to arm the sheep. Time to teach the sheep how to slit throats. Time to teach the sheep how to put that .308 round just above the bridge of the nose from 300 yards with at least a two-inch shot group. I prefer to train them until a one-inch group is repeatable.

Remember, head, lower torso, sides.