A Libertarian Defense of the Arizona Bill

Most libertarians are coming out against the Arizona bill. I have been saying we have to observe the rule of law and it is illegal for immigrants to come here without going through a proper procedure. We have the right to know that new people are not running from the law, carrying drugs, or on some terrorist watch list. We welcome those who want to do things the right way.

I am not the only one.

Part of the Summation from Hyscience:

... the central fact that rule of law is necessary in creating a free society. If we didn't appreciate the role of law and order in protecting civil liberties, we'd be anarchists. A free society can not exist in a world where the law of the land is routinely flaunted and the responsible government authority merely shrugs. A free society depends on a limited government that proactively fulfills the few responsibilities it does have, and the Arizona bill is nothing short of the people of Arizona twisting the arm of the federal government to get it to live up to its responsibilities.


http://americasright.com/?p=4530

We can and will find a compromise to this issue. But our soverienty must be protected in the process.

Think outside the box

Did you know that the states, without any input from either part of Congress, has the constitutional right to enact Amendments to the Constitution? There are two methods to amend the Constitution.

From the Constitution:

Article V - Amendment

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

The second method, application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, has never been used.

The President has no veto power over this method. Infact no politicians currently in Washington need be involved at all!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you imagine, just try, if the states as a group were to decide to nullify all non-constitutional acts taken by Congress in the last 100 years!!!!!!!!!! Eliminate income tax. Eliminate Social Security tax and return the care of the elderly and infirm to the state control. Eliminate the Department of Education, return the education of our children to the state and local level with direct involvement of parents.

Return the selection of Senators to the state legislature where it was designed by the founding fathers.

Our states were designed to operate as their own soverign entities. As Reagan said "you can always vote with your feet" but with the federal government making all our decisions and governing, hell RULING every aspect of business, education, where and how we live, there is no longer any difference between states. This separation of states was the entire reason for the Declaration of Independence leading to the Revolutionary War and also why we fought a second war, the Civil War.

We like the diversity of our states, Texas is different than New York. North Carolina is different than Oregon. We would like to keep it that way.

So I ask again, can you imagine.....

Think about it, you will be hearing more about this as many states are indeed, considering this action.

Texas Eyeing Rejection of Nationalized Healthcare Plan

I just love Texans!!!!

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1504240.html

HR1207

165 signatures!!!

Here's another thought for you: If the federal government bails out California, and then starts bailing out other states, what is to stop them from doing away with states all together?

The Constitution? They've tromped all over that already.

This is why it is so important for the states to all declare their sovereignty and get the Fed out of our business.

Congratulations Georgia!

10th Amendment resolution passed in MY state! I totally missed this on April 1 when it went through but glad it did.

10th Amendment Georgia

NOW I know why...

On an earlier post I listed about 8 states that have or were filing resolutions to notify Obama reminders of the 10th amendment concerning states rights. Was not real sure why they did that. Now we know.

Hidden in the stimulus bill is a provision attempting to override a states right to take or not take the government "handout". This is unconstitutional. This could result in lawsuits as Gov. Sanford of SC has been adamant against his state taking any of the stimulus plan funds.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30700

State Sovereignty

These are amazing links. Basically they are reminding President Obama and Congress of the 10th Amendment to the Constitution regarding states rights. Now, a lot of this has come about because of the disagreement on abortion rights. I'm still on the fence on that specific issue myself. Not for religious reasons obviously, but I think if a woman has rights in regards to her body, doesn't the child have rights?

I know, that probably shocks some of you. But back to these bills, abortion is not the only issue at stake here.

Very interesting, please read and hopefully I'll have more later.

State of Washington: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2009-10/Pdf/Bills/House%20Joint%20Memorials/4009-State%20sovereignty.pdf

New Hampshire: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html

Arizona: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.pdf

Michigan: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(21rmjiv1sl0wvw55yxurwl55))/documents/2009-2010/Journal/House/pdf/2009-HJ-01-22-002.pdf

Michigan really surprised me!

Oklahoma: http://axiomamuse.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/state-legislator-charles-key-wants-to-limit-federal-power/

I had a link for Hawaii but theirs is really confusing and is too tied into secession to be considered part of this discussion. Subject for another time maybe.

More research and I'll be back!